Alpha and Omega: So, to get married in the command that says: You will become one flesh, it means one marriage, you had to know by heart within the individuality, the Gospel; First, in every order of things imaginable there is God; in whatever.
Brother: Brother, is a mental individual also blessed?
Alpha and Omega: Which one?
Brother: A mental individual, a person older than…
Alpha and Omega: A sick person?
Brother: A mentally ill person, but at (unintelligible) level
Alpha and Omega: No, those are tests.
Brother: Isn’t he blessed?
Alpha and Omega: No.
Brother: Act like… a child.
Alpha and Omega: As long as they are children.
Brother: No, older
Alpha and Omega: Oh, no.
Sister: …let’s say, cerebral palsy…
Alpha and Omega: No; Those are tests, which are judged as adults, not as children; If it is a child, yes, up to twelve years of age; This number twelve was represented in the apostles… twelve individualities.
Sister: There are many children… there are many children who, before the age of twelve, are worse than an adult.
Alpha and Omega: Yes, but the Father…
Sister: Why will they be blessed?
Alpha and Omega: The Father is the one who sets the Laws, not the human being; It seemed excessive to me too, but He sets it at twelve.
Sister: There are many children (unintelligible)… who are bad.
Alpha and Omega: He sets it at 12.
Brother: When you refer to the Father… to the Father; …could you explain to me who exactly you are referring to.
Alpha and Omega: The Father…
Brother: To God, to the Son of God, to Jesus Christ…
Alpha and Omega: Well, here is some knowledge that you didn’t know; Now you will know, because the revelation of God is called Revelation, because it brings new things; If the Revelation of God explained what men know, it would not be Revelation, because it is already known. That is the difference between a form of faith and a Revelation; everything has psychology of knowledge, psychology of religion, psychology of Revelation, psychology of faith; You have to separate things, everything in its place; So, uh… what’s your question?
Brother: Regarding the Father…
Alpha and Omega: Ah! the Eternal, calls himself: I am who I am, as it is in the Gospel, why son? -he says-, because for some I am Allah, for others I am Muhammad, for others I am The Lord, for others I am The Almighty, etc., etc., I am God himself.
Sister: (unintelligible) refers to Jesus Christ or Moses.
Alpha and Omega: Ah!, here we touch on the point of the Trinity of the Father; Everything has a Trinity in the universe, we are a human Trinity in the Father.
Sister: I mean, Joseph is Jesus Christ.
Alpha and Omega: Ah!
Sister: Is Joseph Jesus Christ?
Alpha and Omega: No, Moses is Jesus Christ.
Sister: Is Moses Christ?
Alpha and Omega: Moses; That’s why they had the same powers; so, uh, the Father is in the Son, and the Son is in the Father; that is Solar Law, it is not human; They manifest themselves in all worlds, and preserve their free will, being one in the other.
Sister: Do you present yourself as a person or individually?
Alpha and Omega: No. It is presented according to how they choose the Laws; but to this world he presents himself as a person.
Sister: Like who?
Alpha and Omega: Same as a person; not double, nor triple, (unintelligible)
Sister: No, but…
Alpha and Omega: It’s like a ball inside a ball, and you see one ball and there are two.
Brother: Okay, but who are we talking about? God, that is, God is the same Father.
Alpha and Omega: Right, the Father says the following: All those who address God, address the Son or the Mother, it is the same; All three are equal in power.
Brother: I mean, it’s the same person.
Alpha and Omega: Yes.
Brother: Now, eh… you, personally… or those who profess – let’s say – this… this doctrine…
Alpha and Omega: No, no one professes this Doctrine; this is Revelation.
Brother: No, let’s say eh… the group you lead…
Alpha and Omega: There is no group here.
Brother: Yes,… no…
Alpha and Omega: …And I’m not interested in groups either.
Brother: Or personally…
Alpha and Omega: Ha, Ha…
Brother: Do you believe that God has presented himself, eh… physically, or through a certain form to some human being; like the case of the three little shepherds, of the Virgin of Fátima…
Alpha and Omega: Yes; The Father says: He appeared in the Test of Life, and He appears when you estimate Him infinite times, because He—we must never forget it—has a divine Free Will as a Father, as we have free will as children.
Brother: Okay, but he introduces himself saying: I am God or I am the Father, I am the Creator of the world; or what does it present itself as?
Alpha and Omega: He presents himself and manifests himself, according to how He estimates it; and there are no formulas here; You don’t see that you, you don’t know how you will act tomorrow; but you only know it when you act; and you, surprise others; Likewise, the Eternal, He presents himself as he deems it, presenting himself in the way he deems it and expressing himself as he deems it.
Brother: Do you constantly test us?
Alpha and Omega: Eh… yes, every spirit is tested in life, second by second; and most of the time the creature does not realize it; When the Eternal was asked for life, the creature asked the Eternal for his intervention; because when the reincarnation is finished, the spirit tells him: Above all my requests, your divine will be done —and bows—; and it could not be any other way, out of respect for the Eternal.
Brother: …He can test us; in the case, let’s say, that a beggar approaches us and asks for alms.
Alpha and Omega: Exactly.
Brother: And what happens if one denies it?
Alpha and Omega: It depends, if you are enlightened and know that the beggar deserves it, because there are beggars who get used to asking.
Brothers. (Unintelligible conversations).
Brother: Ten years ago,—excuse me—ten years ago, one gave, to say the pesetas, right?, to every beggar who showed up.
Alpha and Omega: Now
Brother: No? But since it has been commercialized today, let’s say, the aspect of…
Alpha and Omega: From begging.
Brother: When it comes to begging, right? One goes, let’s say, choosing one’s beggars, and having a predilection for a certain beggar.
Alpha and Omega: The Father says: Everyone who gave to a beggar and was not one, has Judgment; You had to pay attention to who you practiced charity with.
Brother: So, it’s better not to give it to anyone.
Alpha and Omega: No then; because one has an eye and has an illustration, and one realizes it.
Alpha and Omega: Because if you give to a person who lacks arms and legs, you help him; But if he is a young, robust man, asking for money: he is a scoundrel.
Brother: I want to tell you something; Look brother, eh… in Plaza Dos de Mayo – to be more exact -, there is a boy who must be about thirteen… fourteen years old; I don’t know if you have seen him, he is on the edge of the corner, there on the sidewalk; This is a living little boy, right? He has all his limbs, all five of his perfect senses; and I pass by there twenty times, and I have had the opportunity to talk with him, and he spends the entire day saying only—in the mornings, right?—he says: a little bread please for the love of God; with rheumy eyes, dirty, right?; until he came one day, when I told him…
Sister: …those who are dirty too, with mental retardation…
Brother: Mentally retarded would be fatal; So, one day I told him: hey, I said, why do you ask for money when you can work, right? Then, he opened his eyes wider, looked at me and said: you discovered me, you discovered me, right? So I told him, look, instead of acting like this, let’s say, without making a daily profit in this way, why don’t you go to the theater? You would earn a good role. Because the role that brat plays is worthy… worthy of a work that is here; of a great work.
Alpha and Omega: One who has the… a pompadour.
Brother: No, no.
Alpha and Omega: No?
Brother: He is a little boy (unintelligible), and he asks like this: for the love of God, a little bread.
Alpha and Omega: Yes, then the Father…
Brother: Sorry, I believe that many people, as I have seen, burn, right? Because they are eh… aware that they are doing a good deed by giving them, so to speak, the sun*; So, under this concept, it would be preferable not to give it to anyone.
Alpha and Omega: No, there is one thing here; The Father says: many beggars in life had the opportunity, were offered work many times and rejected, because they got used to asking; That is paid at the Trial.
Sister: And that?
Alpha and Omega: That’s called: true beggars and false beggars.
Brother: You think that a child of that age, I imagine, must already be about four… five years old begging for alms; Have they not guided him?
Alpha and Omega: They often receive advice.
Brother: That’s why I’m telling you, don’t you think you’ve been oriented?
Alpha and Omega: Yes, of course, but here…
Brother: If you have been oriented, what was your responsibility?
Alpha and Omega: Well, now it depends on his mental effort to elevate himself; Now there is another thing, in the Trial of Life – says the Father – the beggars should not have existed; There are beggars, when unjust laws are created in planetary life systems; If we had lived equality, there would be no beggars; logical, then, says the Father: Three quarters of the moral pain of true beggars is paid by those who created the strange system of life, and a quarter is paid by the beggar, as well as by the one who asked for life; and here, in general terms, comes the following in the Revelation: Since no one asked for this strange system of life, with unequal laws; because nothing unequal is asked of God, nothing unbalanced is asked of God, nothing unjust is asked of God; It is that three quarters of the Judgment is paid by those who created the strange system of life.
Sister: And why?… Why has the Father allowed these great deviations?
Alpha and Omega: Eh… respecting the free will that was asked of Him.
Brother: If He already knew the end, why has He allowed this great deviation?
Alpha and Omega: Because they had to live the experience; says the Father: they insisted on asking, they were going to triumph; and here the following happens…
Brother: Because He knew that they were not going to succeed.
Alpha and Omega: Listen well, so that you can form an idea: Son, if I put myself in the Kingdom, to tell the spirits of their future falls, because that is the word —falls—, it is a story —son – Never ending; The spirit says to him: Eternal Father, if I do this, this happens to you; If I do this other one, this other one happens to you; and this history, son, he says, is so infinite that the planet where he wants to go has already aged and been lost in the cosmos.
Brother: No, I don’t mean that.
Alpha and Omega: No.
Brother: He has, he has many ways to reach you.
Alpha and Omega: Yes.
Brother: Do we agree? So, since it has many ways… to reach one, there are many ways for it to guide us.
Alpha and Omega: Yes.
Brother: Not just introducing yourself.
Alpha and Omega: No, the spirit chose this form, it even insisted on living this form.
Brother: But, a wrong way.
Alpha and Omega: Yes.
Brother: Are we?
Alpha and Omega: Yes, the Eternal makes him see, but the spirits insist, just as a son on Earth insists; what is above is equal to what is below; So many times parents… tell their children: “Didn’t I tell you?”… when a misfortune happens to their child. But you were so hard that you never understood, he still loves them; In other words, even seeing the falls, the imperfection must be experienced; because otherwise they will never know it, and the spirit insists on knowing what it does not know; It’s like a magnet, it attracts like a magnet.
Brother: Well, God is eternal, and this Era that we are living in is supposed to be from the coming of Christ, until 1976 years, correct?; well, until 1976 years, billions of people have died.
Alpha and Omega: Yes.
Brother: Therefore, there must be billions of spirits, in what situation are those spirits?
Alpha and Omega: It depends on what…
Brother: They are in a latent state, they are going to the Last Judgment, or they are developing certain types of activities, in the afterlife, well, in heaven, in hell, in limbo…
Alpha and Omega: Yes, precisely, as everything imaginable is asked of God, the spirits, by virtue of their free will, ask for Judgment outside the Earth, outside the planets, or Judgment on the planets; The order is made by one, the situation is created by one.
Brother: But at what moment? Because you know that they die, they grab a wooden box, and they bury it.
Alpha and Omega: Yes.
Brother: So, only at that moment, the spirit that can find out within 8 or 24 hours.
Alpha and Omega: Ha, Ha…
Brother: No? As they say, right? I don’t… but I really don’t know…
Alpha and Omega: No. But I am going to explain to you, you need to know the Laws of the spirit with the flesh.
Brother: Okay; So, at that moment eh… Does the spirit just ask what kind of Judgment he wants? On Earth or on some other planet, or what is it like?
Alpha and Omega: …But here’s one thing, brother.
Brother: You, don’t you smoke, brother?
Alpha and Omega: No thanks, very kind.
Alpha and Omega: …The situation of every spirit, when it leaves the body with death, is the same as its thoughts that it had in life.
Brother: Let’s see, sorry, sorry little brother, I didn’t listen to you.
Alpha and Omega: The situation of each one, of all the beings on a planet, when they leave the body, leave the planet, is the same as that which corresponds to their thoughts. I’m going to explain it to you: he who did not believe in Heaven does not see Heaven, he who believed in infinity, in the cosmic, in Heaven, he sees Heaven; He who said that such a thing did not exist, he does not see such a thing; Heaven is done by sensations, that is why it was written: By your works you will be judged.
Brother: He who is a sinner, but who considers himself ultimately good.
Alpha and Omega: Ah!, that one has hope for himself, that one is like he sees the Light and doesn’t see it; but here is one thing, that… the situation always comes out of one: whether he is a sinner, with little virtue or his defects; So what happens? Since the beings were psychologically divided on a planet, the beings are generally not found outside the planet; only satan divides.
Sister: Does Satan exist?
Alpha and Omega: From the moment evil exists, satan exists. It is enough to generate bad ideas and one is creating one’s own demons; It is up to one to create the demon or not to create it.
Brother: I mean this is, like that adage: our thoughts forge our destiny; I mean, as one thinks about… returning from one’s life…
Alpha and Omega: Exactly.
Brother: In the afterlife, eh… it goes away… it becomes crystallized by seeing this situation.
Alpha and Omega: Precisely. So, it is better to believe than not to believe; because he who did not believe in anything sees nothing, and that is terrible.
Brother: What situation is that spirit in?
Alpha and Omega: It remains in darkness therefore, it is unclean; That is why faith was ordered to be cultivated; So that the creature would not fall into disbelief, the Eternal gave him: Faith moves mountains; He gave her an incentive, lifted her spirits…
Brother: What is the position of the priests, who have renounced their habits?
Alpha and Omega: That they resigned in time, because the Father says: while he became a priest, he was dividing his work, second by second because of the psychology they had. The so-called religious people, says Father Jehovah, did not have the mental ability throughout the centuries to keep the planet unified in a single psychology of the Gospel of God; He did not give them the head, and the Eternal calls them: the most backward in human evolution.
Brother: I want to ask you a question, brother.
Alpha and Omega: Say.
Brother: You said that religion, countries, borders… were the work of men; You said that the division formed by men (unintelligible)… whose work is that? Isn’t it from a man?
Alpha and Omega: No, there is one thing, things are confusing here; It is one thing to ask for characteristics, and another thing is to divide into the distant world; the characteristics were requested, but no one asked for the division; We all ask to be brothers, just as we were in the Kingdom, and when we asked God for a homeland, we asked the entire planet for a homeland; no one asked for a little piece of the planet; because the Father says: those who defended a little piece of the planet as their homeland do not enter the Kingdom of Heaven; because? because all the molecules of the planet, the oceans, the continents in particular, do not defend them before God; He who looked to the entire planet as his homeland enters the Kingdom of Heaven; The Eternal says to those spirits: children, your lawyers are so infinite—the molecules of the planet—that it is… that you enter the Kingdom, you can enter. Only satan divides and shrinks the fruit; This brings an immense revolution; because no one wants to stay without entering the Kingdom of the Eternal; Ultimately, no one wants to lose their soul.
Brother: That is the work that Satan does here on Earth, it is fabulous.
Alpha and Omega: Ugh… tremendous; Satan on this planet took the form of a strange life system; that gave men the illusion of life; at the price of what?, of living inequality, to go against the equality taught by the Father.
Brother: I mean, until now the great winner is Satan.
Alpha and Omega: Precisely, in the division, then the Father says: This is due, son, he says, to the fact that a group of spirits, as Individuals, did not know how to overcome their gold complex; that word complex underlines it; it is underlined in the cosmos; humanity suffers from this complex.
Brother: Well but…
Alpha and Omega: They didn’t mind anymore…
Sister: Does that refer to power?
Alpha and Omega: Yes, eh… to the power of gold, to the influence that gold exerted on the creature.
Brother: I would ask then, I more or less understand everything… all the concerns, so, here comes eh… my big question: What should we do? Or where should we orient ourselves?
Alpha and Omega: Ah, I’m going to explain it to you.
Brother: What work should we do?
Alpha and Omega: .. I’m going to explain it to you… every search in life for the Eternal is rewarded letter by letter, second by second; The individual search that comes from the person receives the full reward, because the individual search divides no one, the religious search divides.
Brother: No, but… what search should that be?
Alpha and Omega: No.
Brother: What is the path I should follow?
Alpha and Omega: …I’m telling you something that you didn’t know, now you know… now.
Sister: What do you understand by Individual search?
Alpha and Omega: Search is the initiative that one takes: ah!, here is a book, let’s see what it says about my God—or whatever you want to call him—; take another book ah! This is called free will of knowledge; Then, the Father says: it is easier for one who sought him individually to enter the Kingdom, because he has no judgment of having divided others with his ideas, than for one who he divided to enter.
Brother: Does he who remains ignorant also have the same privilege?
Alpha and Omega: No, the one who is in ignorance did not gain anything, and has an ignorance score; but that is darkness, because ignorance does not help anyone.
Brother: Here is a table, for example, of the Ten Commandments, is this a guide for men?
Alpha and Omega: Yes, that was the daily morality, of daily living; The Judgment – says the Father – is based on the Morals of the Commandments, although man does not… he has not studied the Gospel, but the Morals of the Commandments are required of him in the Judgment. The Son of God will act on Earth, starting from the basis that this world is experiencing the equality that was promised to God, and it turns out that this was not the case; then there is born… a psychological shock,… that virtues explode and humanity cries; He will use the word strange in everything he sees; I see the following scenes: he is in front of the barracks, the cannons, the rockets, the artifices of so-called militarism; Then he says: how strange, he says, they are not in my Father’s Gospel; and anger comes and the Earth trembles, and millions of beings are in trouble, the houses collapse; and that enormous barracks with its weapons, everything sinks, the Earth opens, it sinks; then He says in a loud voice, that you hear the (unintelligible), a voice powerful like thunder; He says: A tree that my Father did not plant by its roots is uprooted. And militarism is not in the Gospel, so Father Jehovah says: it is easier for something that was in the Gospel to remain in this life than for something to remain that was not there; Then I see, millions of workers demolishing barracks on the planet; I hear comments that say: Oh, we shouldn’t leave a trace, because if you see a trace, it will send earthquakes and my home will fall, we will be left on the street; and they tear down the barracks; then, where He passes he sees nothing, there is no earthquake, there is no tremor, there is no earthquake. By habit the Eternal changes life systems; and this is in the Gospel that says: The neck is stiff; It means that human beings are hard to understand, shakes make them change.
Sister: Let’s see – let’s say – tell me, why are the earthquakes and tremors announced, especially here in the south?
Alpha and Omega: …Here is another sister Law, they are called earthquakes; The earthquake was requested because he, the human being, did not know about the earthquake; and many spirits take advantage of the seismic laws to fulfill their law of Justice; many leave with earthquakes; others don’t leave.
Sister: For example, in the United States they are paying with earthquakes—let’s say—in the center of the United States, are they paying with earthquakes?
Alpha and Omega: Yes, but the earthquake comes in the Judgment; because the Father says: the Son of God isolates the beast; beast is called selfishness, the harshness with which a planet was governed; the head of the beast, groups those most influenced by gold, that is the beast; Then, the spirits of the beast asked to fulfill with them the parable that says: With the rod that you measure, you will be measured; The beast, says the Father, during the trial of life, isolated many nations, divided them, separated them, dismembered them; The beast pays equal law. The Son of God with the Third World at the head – World of the Trinity it is called; He will isolate the beast, and every rich nation, says the Father, arising from the strange world of gold, will remain in the greatest poverty; They will even have to beg for food. This is the weeping and gnashing of teeth of the Gospel; It is expensive to create a system of life and leave God aside… it is expensive.
Brother: Well, you personally, have some kind of recommendations… what to do, right? Because, honestly… I can’t understand it, right? What is the message? I can’t understand it so far…
Alpha and Omega: I’m going to explain it to you.
Brother: In all its dimensions.
Alpha and Omega: If you do not understand, it is because you were not born to understand what is profound, others understand; Overall, there are millions of creatures on the planet, some go deeper, others go less deep; each one on his level; A foundation of humility and recognition is required here.
Brother: Is it in purity?
Alpha and Omega: Oh?
Brother: Is it in purity?
Alpha and Omega: No, the one who is deep in God. Because there are beings who grasp things, see the consequences.
Brother: (unintelligible) are the consequences that may come, eh… I believe in selfishness, in evil, in cruelty, in exploitation…
Alpha and Omega: No, but I mean deeper consequences; Those are individual consequences, I’m going to collective consequences.
Brother: No, but all those… I mean, from the particular, you logically arrive at the general.
Alpha and Omega: Yes, because God’s Laws are the same for everyone.
Brother: So it is the sum of all those factors.
Alpha and Omega: So…
Brother: The general thing is arrived at logically.
Alpha and Omega: Then the Father says, the following will happen: at a certain moment, there will be two worlds in one world; I’m going to explain it to you, the world of the trial of life, with flesh that rots, that is called the decline of the world; and a world that begins to be born in the East, of eternal flesh, the genius children: the other World. And the Father makes me see eh… in the future, the last funerals that could be had on the planet; that is called the Resurrection of the Flesh; the Son of God resurrects elders, elders up to twelve years of age, those who believed in the Law of the Resurrection of the Flesh; those who did not believe, no. To receive the rewards of the Eternal, you had to believe in the rewards of the Eternal.
Brother: After the Resurrection, life is supposed to be eternal.
Alpha and Omega: Yes, there that…
Brother: Physically and spiritually.
Alpha and Omega: Those beings, says the Father, as the Scripture says: New Kingdom, new Laws, new customs, new psychology, new destiny; a paradise in other words; They are not going to know death, because they are not going to ask for death, nor did they ask for it. They are not going to be living scared at all times for sustenance, as it was in the trial of life; They are going to be creatures, who are going to prepare for the cosmic, as soon as they are born they are prepared as babies, for the cosmic.
Sister: But will they also have a body there, or will they only be spiritual?
Alpha and Omega: Just like us, but meat that does not rot; and they will have other sensations, not like us, passionate.
Brother: So no… apart from planet Earth, another planet is going to appear.
Alpha and Omega: Yes, without a doubt.
Brother: Each being, each spirit is going to be on the same planet.
Alpha and Omega: Exactly; So, those beings are eternal, they do reach the stars, the suns, because they do not rot, they do not die; The man of today cannot, he rots; On the trip death surprises him; That is why the Glory of God is said to that world.
Brother: Where do so many spirits come from, since the Earth was created with Adam?
Alpha and Omega: Ah, interesting question… Adam’s paradise.
Brother: Adam is another spirit.
Alpha and Omega: Yes, I’ll explain it to you.
Brother: Eve was another spirit.
Alpha and Omega: Yes.
Brother: Isn’t that true?
Alpha and Omega: Eh… they were angelic hierarchies, as parents they were older than us; If they fell and violated the law it is another story, another law, but they were older; the father is always older.
Sister: Yes, but where did they come from that multiplied so much?
Alpha and Omega: I’m going to explain.
Brother: There are 3.6 billion spirits on Earth today.
Alpha and Omega: Eh… here we must not confuse the laws, the inheritance came from each one in the relationships they have in marriage, the inheritance of the flesh; The other Law is: what children did they have, because it is related to expansion, to multiplication; The paradise – says Father Jehovah – of Adam and Eve was microscopic, it emerged when the Earth had the size of a ping-pong ball, because the Earth was born from the womb of the Solar Mother Omega; smaller in size than the head of a pin; There you have the parable that you have to be humble (microbe) to be great in the Kingdom of Heaven (planet). The Earth was born from the invisible to the visible, it went through all the sizes that your mind can imagine until it reached the current ball; That is why no wise man on Earth has been able to calculate the antiquity of the Earth, they all fall short, because they never go to the tiny, the microscopic, the humble, and the parable of the Gospel has been telling them for centuries, that’s the key.
Brother: According to you, how old is the Earth?
Alpha and Omega: The Earth, says Father Jehovah, is as many centuries old as the Earth has molecules, and it went through the dimension of a microbe; This planet already has as many millions of centuries left as there are molecules on Earth.
Sister: And how many molecules does it have?
Alpha and Omega: …The Earth has so many molecules that not even the generations left to live can count them.
Brother: Yes, but this planet has a lifespan of many years.
Alpha and Omega: Many years, the Eternal says: He prolongs the life of the planets when He deems it.
Brother: And the physical life of man?
Alpha and Omega: It is microscopic, that is why it was written: From the dust you are and to the dust you will return, it means: from the microscopic you are and to the microscopic you return; We are so microscopic with planet and everything; Outside of Earth they don’t know us.
